Connor Roberts - a Burnley fan's view

comment by At least until the world stops going round.... (U11609)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 23 minutes ago
Could have just kept Ayling if the best we could do is Roberts. Barely an upgrade imo. Frees up Gray to be spare in midfield which is a bonus as we didn't bother to sure up there.
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I think this is the one of the most ridiculous takes I've ever heard. Thinking that he's not an upgrade on Ayling is deluded at best.

I loved Ayling as much as the next Leeds fan but it was quite clear he could no longer offer what he could in the past.
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Ayling ball watches and is a liability at the back, but he still offers plenty in an attacking sense and given that we dominate most games, he'd have contributed plenty in attack. Roberts is an upgrade, but as a 28 year old Burnley sub, not a massive one.

Burnley fan I work with said Kompany got really annoyed with him and wanted him out because he took his two weeks paternity leave.

Apparently he told him footballers don't do that and he said, tough I'm taking it.

Agree with many of your takes Shaun over the years where others have not but not on this one. Let's see how he does before making that assessment before he has kicked a ball for us.

Ayling is interesting isn't he? not good enough to start for us this season ahead of a 17 year old lad and most weeks doesn't even make the match-day squad yet he walks into the Middlesbrough side. Looking at the local press from yesterday, he did a good enough job containing Sunderland's MOTM for most of the game, Jack Clarke, who, most of us, would welcome back in a flash, the same Jack Clarke who gave Archie a torrid old time back in December. It's a funny old game.
What Shaun is missing of course is that whilst Bill can still cut it at Championship level, clearly, it is in a different type of team, he recognised that his chances to play would be few and far between.
When you say we could have just kept him, do you mean forced him to stay, against his will, even though he wasn't going to get any game time. That's just cruel.

comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Ayling is interesting isn't he? not good enough to start for us this season ahead of a 17 year old lad and most weeks doesn't even make the match-day squad yet he walks into the Middlesbrough side. Looking at the local press from yesterday, he did a good enough job containing Sunderland's MOTM for most of the game, Jack Clarke, who, most of us, would welcome back in a flash, the same Jack Clarke who gave Archie a torrid old time back in December. It's a funny old game.
What Shaun is missing of course is that whilst Bill can still cut it at Championship level, clearly, it is in a different type of team, he recognised that his chances to play would be few and far between.
When you say we could have just kept him, do you mean forced him to stay, against his will, even though he wasn't going to get any game time. That's just cruel.

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I watched first half, and clarke was going past him with ease

comment by LIW Rad a %#@% and so is Orta (U8453)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Ayling is interesting isn't he? not good enough to start for us this season ahead of a 17 year old lad and most weeks doesn't even make the match-day squad yet he walks into the Middlesbrough side. Looking at the local press from yesterday, he did a good enough job containing Sunderland's MOTM for most of the game, Jack Clarke, who, most of us, would welcome back in a flash, the same Jack Clarke who gave Archie a torrid old time back in December. It's a funny old game.
What Shaun is missing of course is that whilst Bill can still cut it at Championship level, clearly, it is in a different type of team, he recognised that his chances to play would be few and far between.
When you say we could have just kept him, do you mean forced him to stay, against his will, even though he wasn't going to get any game time. That's just cruel.

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I watched first half, and clarke was going past him with ease
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Didn't watch it to so can only go on what the local press wrote, none of them too critical

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-player-ratings-vs-sunderland-28567491

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/24096380.middlesbrough-player-ratings-1-1-sunderland-draw/

6 and 7 he's had worse for us.

His worse critic LIW is you

comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 9 minutes ago
His worse critic LIW is you
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I love ayling, but he was getting mullered first half, anyone else says different is blind

comment by LIW Rad a %#@% and so is Orta (U8453)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 9 minutes ago
His worse critic LIW is you
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I love ayling, but he was getting mullered first half, anyone else says different is blind
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As I said didn't watch it, and I don't know who these guys are but Craig Johns said: Luke Ayling - 6

"Was always going to be a tricky afternoon against Clarke. The Sunderland wide man came to life late on, but beyond that there was only really one major chance for him as Ayling did the task well enough. Some good balls up the channel for Forss too".

and Dominic Shaw said "Did a good job on Clarke until Sunderland’s star man came to life late on. Leeds loanee was on a yellow by that stage and had to be careful".

Maybe the reason Ayling went straight into the team is they are used to much, much worse.

Incidentally Howson got a 5 from both Johns and Shaw, looks like he had a shocker.

comment by LIW Rad a %#@% and so is Orta (U8453)
posted 11 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 9 minutes ago
His worse critic LIW is you
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I love ayling, but he was getting mullered first half, anyone else says different is blind
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Ditto ... I think Ayling is awesome but fell back (literally at times) on his falling over to get a freekick. I watched the game, mainly because of the ex Leeds contingent in both sides (Hjelde, Greenwood, Howson, Luke - sure i've missed someone out?). Watched Luke especially and thought he was better going forward.

I'm glad he's gone out on loan to get game time. Nothing but respect and best wishes for him.