The Tottenham Match Day Thread.

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
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Clue #3: if you've done any management training you'll realise a lot of what Ange says is almost literally textbook. He's doing and saying the right things. The rest is just noise
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WTF is all this? Has Andre Villas Boas taken over your account? 😂
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This is called education. Sorry about that
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Mate, I’ve got a masters, I know what an education is. It just made me laugh as it sounds like soundbite from a naive Apprentice candidate.

comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
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comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
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Hence: why I blame Levy and why I think Conte had it right
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Yeah so you’re basically saying this culture is here from years of underachievement under levy. And im saying todays fans reaction is heightened by the fact we are unsuccessful so the idea of us helping arsenal win the league would be even worse.

Sounds like we agree…
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Nearly but not quite. I'm saying that the culture that Levy has instilled has led to years of failure. It's a small difference but important. Basically, we can't succeed because there's inherent failings and weaknesses in why people are doing what they're doing.
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👍🏾

Ok so what were we disagreeing about?
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You were saying that losing has meant we've got a losing culture (so it's indirectly the manager's fault) while I was saying the culture leads to losing. So it almost doesn't matter who the manager is unless that changes.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Clue #3: if you've done any management training you'll realise a lot of what Ange says is almost literally textbook. He's doing and saying the right things. The rest is just noise
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WTF is all this? Has Andre Villas Boas taken over your account? 😂
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This is called education. Sorry about that
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Mate, I’ve got a masters, I know what an education is. It just made me laugh as it sounds like soundbite from a naive Apprentice candidate.
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Not sure what your point is.

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Clue #3: if you've done any management training you'll realise a lot of what Ange says is almost literally textbook. He's doing and saying the right things. The rest is just noise
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WTF is all this? Has Andre Villas Boas taken over your account? 😂
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This is called education. Sorry about that
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Mate, I’ve got a masters, I know what an education is. It just made me laugh as it sounds like soundbite from a naive Apprentice candidate.
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Not sure what your point is.
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It really reminded me of this absolute banger 😂😂😂😂

https://youtu.be/2bO8Cnqt79o?si=PIif5yLH_2P9abl5

Welcome to the real Spurs Ange.

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
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comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hence: why I blame Levy and why I think Conte had it right
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Yeah so you’re basically saying this culture is here from years of underachievement under levy. And im saying todays fans reaction is heightened by the fact we are unsuccessful so the idea of us helping arsenal win the league would be even worse.

Sounds like we agree…
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Nearly but not quite. I'm saying that the culture that Levy has instilled has led to years of failure. It's a small difference but important. Basically, we can't succeed because there's inherent failings and weaknesses in why people are doing what they're doing.
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👍🏾

Ok so what were we disagreeing about?
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You were saying that losing has meant we've got a losing culture (so it's indirectly the manager's fault) while I was saying the culture leads to losing. So it almost doesn't matter who the manager is unless that changes.
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Yeah but it was something else u were coming at me for before we got into this back n forth lol.

What i was saying is our RECENT defeats has meant the fans (me includes) would be p!ssed off at us turning up today, but couldn’t turn up in the other games. Eg had we beaten arsenal then it wouldn’t have mattered the result today: we still would have had a chance of top 4 and city still would have been in the driving seat had we won tonight

Then separately, our lack of success over a sustained period (ok because of levys culture or whatever) has again meant fans wanted to lose today.

So there are both short term (ange) and long term (levy/culture/0 trophies) factors.

(10 marks)

comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 55 seconds ago
Yep people hated Conte for saying it but he was clearly spot on and now Ange is finding out. Personally I blame Levy for the culture at the club. There's only so much coaches can do
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If it was the other way round, arsenal would want to lose. We’ve literally seen it when we both were in european finals, and that was them having a chance of a trophy but they still preferred us both losing than both winning.

Nothing to do with culture of the club 😂. Actually, let me correct that. If we had a winning culture and regularly won trophies then arsenal winning the league might not sting as much as it would now. So therefore, the culture is due to us being unsuccessful, including losing 4 in a row
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This is the comment I originally replied to, where you state that the culture is due to us being unsuccessful. Which is just wrong.

Please see me

Yeah but Bit of a chicken and egg where levy and lack of success have both impacted the culture. bit of a snowball effect where levy has led to us winning less trophies and therefore less successful. Thus impacting the culture further

Well you're wrong but ok whatever

comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
Yeah but Bit of a chicken and egg where levy and lack of success have both impacted the culture. bit of a snowball effect where levy has led to us winning less trophies and therefore less successful. Thus impacting the culture further
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Why do you deserve to see success?

You wanted your own team to lose.